holy crap make avatars spawn faster - Page 37

Pinski · 04-16-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugga

The game was working as intended according to its current programing by SOE

Which therein lies the problem with the whole situation. According to current programming, everything in-game is working as intended. But the problem is, current programming can and will be wrong. Not to say that anything is an exploit or not, but the fact is according to its current programming, jumping down a hill at mach 5 is not an exploit. According to prior programming, farming the Spider Queen in Splitpaw was not an exploit since it's working as intended according to its then current programming. Just like Tryannical Mind's bug was not an exploit which was used as well, since it was working as intended according to its current programming.

This means, whatever is "working as intended according to its current programing" does not mean jack shit.

Ugga · 04-16-2007, 01:52 AM

But this brings in the question of intent. Exploiting requires two factors, the game allowing it to happen and the person(s) intent to acheive the flaw, and using the flawed mechanic to gain an advantage. I'm not gonna sit here and debate what "working as intended according to its currnet programing" instigates a exploit and what doesn't. Some basic raid mechanics used by almost all raiders weren't meant to be used as they are by the Dev's vision of how the game works, but you'll never hear or see anyone cry exploit on that.

Unfortunately, this game is still very flawed, and no new zones or itemization is ever going to fix that.

LFG · 04-16-2007, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugga

But this brings in the question of intent. Exploiting requires two factors, the game allowing it to happen and the person(s) intent to acheive the flaw, and using the flawed mechanic to gain an advantage. I'm not gonna sit here and debate what "working as intended according to its currnet programing" instigates a exploit and what doesn't. Some basic raid mechanics used by almost all raiders weren't meant to be used as they are by the Dev's vision of how the game works, but you'll never hear or see anyone cry exploit on that.

This is the point I've been trying to make. It shouldn't require college level critical thinking, ethics, and computer science courses to play a video game. Every knows that's what we are debating, correct? FYI, these things are relative and opinions will always differ based on the unique experiences and views of each user. There are rarely perfectly correct answers - just different shades of grey on a spectrum.

Ishbu · 04-16-2007, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LFG

This is the point I've been trying to make. It shouldn't require college level critical thinking, ethics, and computer science courses to play a video game.

Fuck that, the greek philosphers couldnt have solved these riddles, wich is probably why the debates are so fun and prolonged.

LFG · 04-16-2007, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

Fuck that, the greek philosphers couldnt have solved these riddles, wich is probably why the debates are so fun and prolonged.

Hahahhahahaa.

Ugga · 04-16-2007, 03:02 AM

I don't know, those philosophers smoked some pretty sweet grass to get their minds to the state they were in. Never underestimate the power of a stoner, G. W. Bush ftw.