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04-15-2007, 07:28 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by LFG
No, timing zoning with temporary buffs to bug those buffs so they stay up indefinitely is on the otherside of the exploit universe from going into a zone, seeing a raid mob up, and then slaying it.
The two examples are on such polar extremes, they don't even exist in the same plane of reality.
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Obviously you don't know at all what I am talking about so I will help you out. when developers added the /useabilityonplayer command it allowed you to use anything even your short term buffs self buffs Ishbu could give me his mage pet if he wanted to, I could give myself aoe avoid and also give it to my dog. So by your logic since developers gave us that and did not fix it for a while it was perfectly ok to use and developers were just blessing us with some fun for a week or how ever long it was in game ( I only new about it for about 6 hours before it got hotfixed  )
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04-15-2007, 07:29 PM
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Character: Bish Please
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by Pinski
If you were a god, would you have 2 Avatars?
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C'mon Calaglin, are you seriously suggesting I have to start reading the lore of this game, and contemplate the most likely lore outcome at the same time I'm using my masters degree in Philosophy to determine whether every encounter I approach in game is allowed or not?
Sorry, I just click the buttons to get the reward as quickly as possible. I don't want to start speculating about lore. I just want to kill mobs.
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04-15-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by LFG
C'mon Calaglin, are you seriously suggesting I have to start reading the lore of this game
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MAYONG!
Edit: oh and all I am point out is how can you say its not a bug its intended until it gets fixed? so when a hot fix goes in and this bug is gone will your opinion change?
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04-15-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by razieh
Obviously you don't know at all what I am talking about so I will help you out. when developers added the /useabilityonplayer command it allowed you to use anything even your short term buffs self buffs Ishbu could give me his mage pet if he wanted to, I could give myself aoe avoid and also give it to my dog. So by your logic since developers gave us that and did not fix it for a while it was perfectly ok to use and developers were just blessing us with some fun for a week or how ever long it was in game ( I only new about it for about 6 hours before it got hotfixed  )
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Yes, I didn't know about that one, I thought you were referring to the exploit at the beginning of DoF, where monks were getting perma-Tsunami and leveling very quickly and such.
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04-15-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by razieh
MAYONG!
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Sorry, I'm a simple person, and only want the itemz. 
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04-15-2007, 07:48 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by razieh
Edit: oh and all I am point out is how can you say its not a bug its intended until it gets fixed? so when a hot fix goes in and this bug is gone will your opinion change?
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No, you are trying to make me appear as an extremist!
It doesn't take a nuclear scientist to look at a coin dupe bug, or one where a defiler can have a conjuror pet, and know that is a TYPE A BAD EXPLOIT that should not be done.
The same isn't true for raid mobs spawning normally and killing them straight up when they spawn. That seems perfectly reasonable to me. It is no longer my place on Earth or in this game to try and determine whether such seemingly normal things are proper or not.
Surely, you can appreciate the difference between using a conj pet on a defiler, and killing a raid mob straight up with a full raid force, can't you? 
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04-15-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
Yes but how can you sit here and say ( i know cl did not do this but the thread is about avatars and second instances ) that it is intended for avatars to spawn multiple times AND OR going killing cl 2 leave and reopen it again to kill it multiple times essentially farming it.
Edit: I am not arguing, if I would or would not do this ( because I would if a cl2 was open ) just simply the fact how can you say its ok because the developers would have fixed it if it was not intended. I am not trying to bash CL or you or bring up the rumbler or any of that just merely confused how you can honestly say that when so many things before would fall into this category. Hell tarinax his adds were not spawning that was in game for god knows how long it must have been indented because it happened again with valor!
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04-15-2007, 08:04 PM
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Character: Ballads
Guild: NPU
Server: Guk
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
If you fucking think this is not a bug and was intended to work this way you are a fucking moron!! If you think this will not be fixed you are a fucking moron !!
I'm sure a lot of you like the ill gotten gains you have looted from this bug ,but i mean come on you can't possibly think this was intended and will not be fixed. If you do YOUR A FUCKING MORON!!!
BALLADS
P.S. if you think being able to kill multiple of the same avatar due to instancing is intended YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON!!!
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04-15-2007, 08:07 PM
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Character: Ishbu
Guild: Dissolution
Server: Nektulos
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by LFG
You can change your opinion about those facts at a future point in time, however, and adopt entirely new strategies for dealing with similar situations in the future. That's simply changing your mind or opinion.
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Lol you realize simply saying this in the first place probably could have killed the entertaininment value I got from these boards for the last 2 days really fast?
Your right, we both agree on this issue. i dont think we ever disagreed about killing the second one. You did it and I certantly would have if given the opportunity.
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04-15-2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Avatars and 2nd Instances
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Originally Posted by Ballads
If you fucking think this is not a bug and was intended to work this way you are a fucking moron!! If you think this will not be fixed you are a fucking moron !!
I'm sure a lot of you like the ill gotten gains you have looted from this bug ,but i mean come on you can't possibly think this was intended and will not be fixed. If you do YOUR A FUCKING MORON!!!
BALLADS
P.S. if you think being able to kill multiple of the same avatar due to instancing is intended YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON!!!
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Well, we don't seem to see eye to eye on this issue, but that's ok man, because I don't think you are a fucking moron at all. 
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