Avatars and 2nd Instances - Page 6

Vizion · 04-15-2007, 11:58 PM

Bah, fuckin double posts

Vizion · 04-15-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Artwat

Instead of getting all pissy, fucking read what the fuck I wrote. I said I'd do the same damn thing and kill both if it was me, since if I didn't do it, someone else would. I do think it is not intended and from your reaction you know it wasnt intended as well, but you don't want to admit it.

Someone is butt hurt :P hahaha

Artwat · 04-16-2007, 12:04 AM

I really couldn't care less. This doesnt affect me in the slightest. I just think its funny people flame for /yelling rumbler yet think this is fine. Same shit right here.

Ishbu · 04-16-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LFG

2nd instance of CL = system working as intended when more than 100 people, including onlookers and 3 guilds, enter CL. Not manipulation, that's au natural.

Then why is it 100% impossible to reproduce this in other overland zones such as lavastorm? Its because the instancing of specific overland zones was to account for the lag that could accumulate there from too many players, not to spawn multiple contested mobs.

We went over this with Pillars of Flame, Bonemire, and Mystic Lake. The developers do not intend for you to get multiple contested. If your seriously arguing it is intended you obviously werent around for the server mergers prior to KoS release, for the period of time about 4-6months into KoS when bonemire was crashing and befallen server even had to have a GM come regulate and make guilds leave the zone and take turns on the MO. And then of course when the matron was first killed.

The fact is they would not instance PoF because of giving multiple barakah/siyamaks and they already had admitted it was an unfortunate side affect that some servers were getting up to 3 terrorantula's. They refused to instance bonemire because of creating multiple MO spawns and I know for a fact that Gaige said that was the reason after talking Moorgard or whomever he talked to at SOE because he told me so. And is there really any question what was done to mystic lake wasnt based soley on guilds killing multiple copies of the matron?

I dont see how anyone can argue that this is intended. Its clearly not. There precedence of it being admitted as a mistake and of the ability to produce a second copy removed when it is a seldom used zone (like mystic lake).

Nobody can seriously beleive its intended for you to be able to get 2 of the same avatar at the exact same time. Well unless your a complete idiot like Gungo or something.

LFG · 04-16-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

If your seriously arguing . . .

The only thing I've argued seriously in this whole thread is that it NOT the responsibility of players to resolve the seemingly endless ethical quandaries that are introduced into this game by poor planning, design, qc, and bugs.

This situation is a known issue, and has been for over a year.

I'm not expecting perfect software. After playing Vanguard for two months, EQ2 seems almost bug free by comparison.

But I'm sick and tired of arguing about ethical dilemas in EQ2. I just want to play the game.

If they can't fix this problem within a reasonable time, and if they refuse to tell players what to do when this happens, I'll be damned if I spend anymore hours of my life arguing over stupid shit like this. No, I'm just going to kill the mobs if they are up.

I have every right to assume, based on all the information in this post and the length of time this multi-instance epic spawn issue has been happening in this game, that if they didn't want this to happen, they would stop it from happening before it started.

They knew or should have known this was going to happen based on the fact it has happened previously in other zones and expansions. If they can't or won't code the game so this doesn't happen, at minimum, they owe us some communication to tell us NOT to do this if they don't want us to do this.

Without that, I have EVERY right to continue doing this.

LFG · 04-16-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Artwat

Instead of getting all pissy, fucking read what the fuck I wrote. I said I'd do the same damn thing and kill both if it was me, since if I didn't do it, someone else would. I do think it is not intended and from your reaction you know it wasnt intended as well, but you don't want to admit it.

Can everyone please just learn to disagree without hating each other.

Thank you

Claria · 04-16-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

I dont see how anyone can argue that this is intended. Its clearly not. There precedence of it being admitted as a mistake and of the ability to produce a second copy removed when it is a seldom used zone (like mystic lake).

Nobody can seriously beleive its intended for you to be able to get 2 of the same avatar at the exact same time. Well unless your a complete idiot like Gungo or something.

Well, almost everyone in this thread has agreed that it's not intended to be able to kill multiple copies of contesteds, yet that you will continue to do so as long as they are up, because they are up to kill and if you dont, someone else will. I think the reason that someone can argue that it is intended though.... is based off the fact that they have to make themselves believe its intended as to not sound like a hippocrite.

Back with the whole rumbler thing... LFG was pretty vocal about thinking that you guys yelling it was an exploit... was something that wasn't intended... and although it could be done... since you all should know its not intended that you shouldnt have done it. He also wanted everyone to know that he would never take part in any kind of questionable behavior, and that everything he does is 100% by the book and completely ethical. If he doesn't argue that its intended, how can he stand by his word that he is 100% purely eithical, because if he were to admit that its not intended, but since its able to be done he's going to do it anyway (as everyone else has admitted and has agreed upon), he would be contradicting every statement he made when he flamed you guys for the rumbler incident. I dont know if anyone really does believe that the multiple avatars is intended.... but I dont think LFG has much of a choice in what he says based on his previous comments regarding what he considered to be an exploit.

LFG · 04-16-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Claria

Well, almost everyone in this thread has agreed that it's not intended to be able to kill multiple copies of contesteds, yet that you will continue to do so as long as they are up, because they are up to kill and if you dont, someone else will. I think the reason that someone can argue that it is intended though.... is based off the fact that they have to make themselves believe its intended as to not sound like a hippocrite.

Back with the whole rumbler thing... LFG was pretty vocal about thinking that you guys yelling it was an exploit... was something that wasn't intended... and although it could be done... since you all should know its not intended that you shouldnt have done it. He also wanted everyone to know that he would never take part in any kind of questionable behavior, and that everything he does is 100% by the book and completely ethical. If he doesn't argue that its intended, how can he stand by his word that he is 100% purely eithical, because if he were to admit that its not intended, but since its able to be done he's going to do it anyway (as everyone else has admitted and has agreed upon), he would be contradicting every statement he made when he flamed you guys for the rumbler incident. I dont know if anyone really does believe that the multiple avatars is intended.... but I dont think LFG has much of a choice in what he says based on his previous comments regarding what he considered to be an exploit.

I previously made the effort to explain this to you, and what I typed out based on a similarly ignorant and incorrect comment from you was a complete response to what you wrote.

Apparently, you can't fucking read. I completely addressed this same misconception of yours in this very thread:

http://www.eq2flames.com/showpost.ph...9&postcount=11

Don't you even check for responses to what you post before digging yourself in deeper? How fucking stupid are you?

I'm going to link this for you one more time:

http://www.eq2flames.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=289

Read that before typing one more word. Let me summarize it for you, so even your retarded simpleton mind can understand the gist of this situation:

I CHANGED MY FUCKING MIND ON SOME OF THE POINTS I MADE FOUR MONTHS AGO. YES, I CHANGED MY MIND. MY VIEWS ON THE ISSUE OF EXPLOITATION ARE NO LONGER AS EXTREMIST AS THEY PREVIOUSLY WERE. SO KINDLY STOP, CEASE IMMEDIATELY, ATTRIBUTING YOUR IGNORANT MISCHARACTERIZATIONS TO WHAT I'VE SAID IN THE PAST. ESPECIALLY, NEVER AGAIN PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH THAT DON'T BELONG THERE, YOU DUMB BITCH.

Jesus Christ, can you read? How stupid are you?

Artwat · 04-16-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Claria

Well, almost everyone in this thread has agreed that it's not intended to be able to kill multiple copies of contesteds, yet that you will continue to do so as long as they are up, because they are up to kill and if you dont, someone else will. I think the reason that someone can argue that it is intended though.... is based off the fact that they have to make themselves believe its intended as to not sound like a hippocrite.

Back with the whole rumbler thing... LFG was pretty vocal about thinking that you guys yelling it was an exploit... was something that wasn't intended... and although it could be done... since you all should know its not intended that you shouldnt have done it. He also wanted everyone to know that he would never take part in any kind of questionable behavior, and that everything he does is 100% by the book and completely ethical. If he doesn't argue that its intended, how can he stand by his word that he is 100% purely eithical, because if he were to admit that its not intended, but since its able to be done he's going to do it anyway (as everyone else has admitted and has agreed upon), he would be contradicting every statement he made when he flamed you guys for the rumbler incident. I dont know if anyone really does believe that the multiple avatars is intended.... but I dont think LFG has much of a choice in what he says based on his previous comments regarding what he considered to be an exploit.

So stupid he can't use punctuation. That's how stupid.

Epitaphe · 04-16-2007, 10:54 AM

you got yourself a new title artwat?
i guess it suits you.
are you all pissy because LFG choosed to go back CL because he already knows and have friend there instead of going to Vendetta where he only knew Phov.