gungo

stun/stifling does not always reset the aoe timer. In which case the npc can cast the aoe after stun/stilfe wears off.

Furthermore the named in our case dies abit over 1 min total fight. Once again even w the heal on mt the named still provides aprox 45secs from the time aoe is used to burn him from ~10% to 0 more then enough time for even the most causal of guilds. Wheres the stun stifles does not reset the aoe and provide unlimited time to kill them. Which is what you are implying but is wrong.

You guys keep acting like your bards/aoe avoid toons can't hit a single button when asked. Its not rocket science and you know what the timing does not need to be perfect unlike enchanters stun/stifle.

Windraa

We 've killed these mobs with AoE.avoids, stun/stifle or straight burn. However, out of these 3 tactics the AoE avoid is the least reliable method... too many times is Bladedance broken on half or 1/4 of the raid. Too many times has my group got hit like a ton of bricks and powerdrained with Bladedance up.

Judist

Namer will heal 1mil HP plus whatever was left. In a worst case scenario you can add another 240k if his other mini aoe/heal goes off when doing that big burn. So like I stated earlier, a raid given 30 seconds from heal to kill would need 38k raidDPS sustained for 30 seconds.

Thats a tall order.

10 second burns are easy as hell. Almost every class is able to produce 10 seconds of sheer DPS mayhem. But when those 10sec are gone and your raid expended all their wonderful nukes/decaps/ss/fusions/novas then WTF are you gonna do for the next 20 seconds to keep it near 38k?

Casual guilds learn to stun/stifle. Better guilds stun/stifle and use AOE as backup. Casual guilds dont use AOE.

Pinski

Okay, I'm calling complete bullshit on your a bit over 1 minute fight. You're telling me you do 83k Raid DPS? Gungo, please once again you have shown how dumb you are. There is no way a raid can kill a mob in 60s that has 5 million hp. Please, shut the fuck up and actually look at how long the fight really is before you post.

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Judist

I'm wondering if hes just reciting old Eq2mobs info in an attempt to sound educated. All his numbers have been way off. For example theres no way the mob has only 10% HP after the AOE goes off.

Prevent the AOE, prevent the heal. And because you dont cast stuns at 10% (more like 8% depending on DPS) thats only 6-7% your have to burn before your Inqy does their thing.

gungo

Did i say it was 1 minute you illiterate bastard. You would think someone who tries to pretend he is educated would know how the fuck to read. I said over 1 min (I don't recall what it was tues but it was under 2 minutes) and yes we did put up 32k on the first vampire. The entire zone from zonein to finish was done in under 45 minutes. Call bullshit all you want that is the truth and i have 23+ other people willing to back me up on that. The Mayong fight took aprox 4.5minutes including mayong and his adds.

Widem

ur such a fucking nutsack

yeah we kill Wuoshi abit over 2 min total fight.

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gungo

Beleive what you want the entire zone was cleared in 45min and the first vamp named died over 1 min (but under 2 min) w a 32k parse. We also were hussling because an avatar popped. But hey call bullshit all you want it doesn't bother me one fuking bit what your retarded ass thinks.

razieh

You need to learn how to read from the looks of it, a bit over one minute would imply around 60 seconds or close to 60 seconds. A bit over one minute does not mean one minute and fifty nine seconds.

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gungo

I didnt say it was aprox 2 min either. I am quite certain there are other guilds who can kill the first vamprie named under 2 minutes as well (but since you guys are nitpicking everything so litterally it was probably ~1:30 on the first vamp) , because we are not the first guild to do this zone in under 45minutes. I beleive strike has as well. But i am sure you guys know people in my guild as well so ask them you can easily send a x server tell and confirm.