Mirage

Can anyone confirm the exact time you have to do the stun/stifle chain on Viswin and Cheeron? While we've been successful in the past on Viswin (havent really tried Cheeron) we cant exactly figure out what we are doing wrong 1/2 the time. Is it:

a) When mob hits 10% health then Stun and Stifle by a chanter
b) Stun then Stifle at EMOTE OF VISWIN? Not sure about Cheeron
c) Try and have your chanter time it right so the stun lands at 10% health followed by the stifle?
d) Something else

We've been successful using the Grove's Entanglement miracle a couple of times cause it lasts like 20-30 seconds (w/o a chanter) but seems like we just can't always time it right and get Viswin's big heal first which then makes him immune to stuns/stifles, he heals and you get the picture from there.....

And yes, a couple of times it just not the dps burst we need that was our problem, but most of the time when we get ready to cast the stun/stifle its WHAM big heal and /argh. Fortunately our dps has corrected itself lately so now we must look to the stun/stifle

Any help appreciated and thanks in advance

Laodaron

Easier step. The script begins at 12%ish. Make sure all 4 groups have AE immunity, throw it up around 12%, no noe but the MT gets the AE, heal, then burn them down. Don't worry about stuns and stifles if you don't have to, its one of those deals where you put too much thinking into it, and make it harder for yourself.

Talonis

d) something else

You're overthinking it. You need DPS. AE immunities are helpful if your DPS is pokey...... or Heartwood stakes ftw, lol

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Widem

im sure if they are asking for help on this they dont have heartwood stakes.

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Talonis

Hence the 'lol'

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Revel

Stun/stifle will only give you somewhere between 4 and 6 extra seconds, and I always time it by the emote.

Both mobs are the same, script and timing wise, only with a slight difference in abilities.

Blackmail

First one goes off 6 seconds after the emote, we use a zerker with Gut roar for the first one and AE avoids if needed on the 2nd.

Pheemo

Both mobs cast the same spell. Both mobs start casting it at 10%. Both mobs take the same number of seconds to complete the spell cast. Both mobs have AE power and life taps, but one of the life taps is worse than the other.

Everything you need to know to defeat both encounters is listed above; it just takes some thought and good execution. No stakes or 40k dps required. Good luck

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Judist

Lmao. AOE immunity? So let them heal for 1milion HP then burn down? Think not.

Easiest way = Stun/Stifle.

When pulled off perfectly you can get 10-12 extra seconds. On some occasions you can totally reset the script (mob gives up on recasting) and it wont happen for another 20-30 seconds when the mobs que'd to do so.

We've seen both occur.

Once your enchanters get comfortable with these 2 mobs, they're about the easiest in zone. Remember, no raincallers on those fights.

boli

Asign a single chanter to cast the spells and make sure NO ONE in the raid stuns/stifles the mob during the entire fight AT ALL. grab a LOT of +sub (think that's the skill needed) on to make the spell stick better.

1> watch for emote (about 10-12%)
2> when you see the emote give yourself about 1-2s extra (our illus did a slow count of 2s)
3> cast stun spell
4> cast stitle spell so it starts just as stun ends (don't allow ANY gap; doing so will mess it up).

If you do it right you've got about 12s to burn the mob from 10% to 0% (bring an inquisitor so you only have to burn to 2%).

These two mobs are cake; really very very easy.