Claymore gets the SoD-style smackdown - Page 4

Morara · 07-23-2007, 03:04 AM

Fabled should be tradeskilled from raws that are harvested in the tradeskill instances.

Naeca · 07-23-2007, 03:13 AM

This goes for everyone, everyone I ever knew, or loved.. or hated, who have told to STFU.

I hope that the RoK epic weapon quest series is the MOST MISERABLE FUCKING QUEST ON THE FACE OF NORRATH and I hope it's so miserable that you will all be waking up in the middle of 3 am, vomitting because of how long and hard you've been grinding through the quest, and you're still only.. 10% in.

Not only is this quest seriously hard, but it's going to bad for your physical health as well.

Have fun.

Ishbu · 07-23-2007, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Naeca

This goes for everyone, everyone I ever knew, or loved.. or hated, who have told to STFU.

I hope that the RoK epic weapon quest series is the MOST MISERABLE FUCKING QUEST ON THE FACE OF NORRATH and I hope it's so miserable that you will all be waking up in the middle of 3 am, vomitting because of how long and hard you've been grinding through the quest, and you're still only.. 10% in.

Not only is this quest seriously hard, but it's going to bad for your physical health as well.

Have fun.

That would be my wet dream come true.

Naeca · 07-23-2007, 04:17 AM

All for Ishy!

Lopann · 07-23-2007, 07:45 AM

aye would be nice to actually have a real epic questline, i wouldnt mind if it was claymore x5 i would still do it gladly, and the reward would actually be... omg fucking rewarding, for once.

Ryuujin · 07-23-2007, 10:12 AM

Ishbu, if you're trying to make the argument that removing the named camps from Claymore makes the entire questline a cakewalk that hands Fabled items to noobs on a silver platter, you're wrong. It still clocks in at 30ish quests, including 3 instance raids and 1 x2 contested, and is more than enough of a timesink. Anyone who grinds their way through the entire questline has certainly earned their one Fabled item (or Legendary item if you're a mage

) named camping or not. To be honest, the camping made it almost more of a hassle that it was worth. After soloing/duoing most of the quests on my Conjuror, I probably wasn't going to bother doing them all with my Guardian. Now I just might.

As far as the potential for trivializing future content by going this route, I agree that it is a concern. I would, however, rather that they find other ways of adding time sinks to the Epic questlines rather than the tired old method of having me read a book for 10 minutes while waiting for a named or its placeholder to spawn. Again. And again. And again... I want the RoK Epic quests to be long, difficult, and challenging, but not mind-numbingly boring.

Flaming Homo · 07-23-2007, 02:47 PM

Mob camps are designed by game developers who do not know what the fuck they are doing and are intended for game players who are complete fuck ups.

As for 'deserving' fabled gear, it's a fucking game, not a fucking pension plan.

Drodin · 07-23-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

Hey dumbfuck, you realize killing that named wont give you fabled gear rigth? It comes from a quest line. If you are not able or willing to spend some time camping named you may need throughout that questline you do not deserve the final reward. The odds of anyone walking into a room and having every named in those rooms up every single time for the whole questline is damn near impossible, it just wont happen.

It has happened and happens more than you think (if in fact you do think at all).
I've done the series 3x now and done the quests even more than that helping people so I've seen people be really lucky/unlucky and it is entirely possible to have someone spend over 20 hours more than the next person on the series becasue of some shitty luck on spawns. That is just dumb. You arguing for bigger time sinks in heroic content to get to a fabled reward is dumb, you are basically saying that as long as you can get to Tarinax you deserve fabled, which is why he is the gimp he is today.
There is 0 control from the client end when it comes to named camping, so the extra time that is possible is bullshit. At least with statues if someone spent any extra time over the next person its simply cause they are slower/handicapped.

Izzdar · 07-23-2007, 03:19 PM

It feels strange to say but I agree with Ishbu.

If you are semi competent (not retarted) you can duo your way through SOS in a few hours. I did it on 2 toons (Wizard, Defiler) (Brigand, Fury). All you need to do is find someone who is willing to spend a few hours and is able to be patient. Poa is a joke, That can be done even faster with the walls and the ability to train everywhere.

When you do the work you earn the reward. What work is it waiting 15-20 mins for a mob to spawn and move on??? Not much but having to camp a named is difficult. The easiest way to tell that it is difficult is everyone complains about it. If it was simple to camp nameds no one would complain. Also people wouldn't give up saying the quest sucked.

Luck Plays a large role in the game no matter what deal with it.

Crychtonn - Bylar · 07-23-2007, 04:25 PM

Three hours a night for three nights in a row killing PH after PH for that fucking drakota at the bottom of SoS is not content. It's called spend 1-2 minutes killing it then either watching TV or playing online poker for 20m just to do it again and again and again.

And Izzdar camping named is simple I don't know what you're talking about. All you have to do is have alot of time to kill. Sorry but that's not a skill and neither is killing a PH then afk'ing for 15-20m depending on the repop and coming back and doing it again.